Post by Knief on Jan 11, 2013 20:18:33 GMT -8
I sent him this:
He sent me this (paraphrasing):
That's what I thought. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of why people have a problem with what you post.
I like Combat Machines. I think they have value and I recommend them all the time. I've said as much in posts addressed to you directly and that I know you've read. I'll say it again to be clear. I like G&G Combat Machines. But you don't seem to know that. You seem to think that I don't like them. Why? Because you don't understand the things that I've told you. You don't understand most of the things that Legolas's trans roommate and others have told you. You either aren't very good at taking the correct meaning out of what you read, or you don't read what we say very closely. I'll use your example of the cracked gearbox.
You said that you fired a gun with a cracked gearbox. You also said that a cracked gearbox shell will lower your ROF by about 15 rounds per second. Here's the quote:
That statement, the one about ROF, was the problem. A cracked gearbox shell will not affect the ROF of a gun. Furthermore, if it were to affect the ROF of every gun, it wouldn't do so by the same amount for every gun. If a cracked gearbox could affect ROF, which it doesn't, but if it did, it would affect each gun very differently. Some might see a drop of 15 RPS, others might see a drop of 1-2 RPS. A lot of factors would play into that, including the ROF that the gun had initial, how bad the crack was, where the crack was, and a number of other factors. This is how physics works. No two cracked boxes are the same, and as a result, the affects of each crack would be different. Do you see what I'm saying? If not, re-read it. That one statement has two major problems. First, it's not possible. A cracked shell couldn't affect ROF. Second, if it were possible, it wouldn't happen as you described, a universal 15RPS drop. That's why people called you a liar. It wasn't because you said you fired a gun with a cracked gearbox. That's common and most people know that it can happen. The problem was the results you claimed you saw. You may have seen those results, but they would have been the result of a completely different problem, one that you misinterpreted as a result of the crack.
Think about that for a second. The results you reported couldn't have come from the cause you ascribed to them. Everybody talking to you in that thread knew it. If you think that the cause of the drop in ROF is the crack, that tells everybody in that thread that you don't understand what factors can impact the ROF of a gearbox and that you don't understand what elements of a gearbox a crack in the shell can impact. That's one example of why people think you don't have a very good understanding of gearboxes. The things that you say demonstrate that you don't.
Here's another example of a similar problem. In the same thread, you claimed that G&G Combat Machines have a steel barrel inner barrel. Everybody told you that they didn't. You continued to claim that they did. Your evidence for believing that they have a steel inner barrel was the fact that G&G also makes a steel aftermarket inner barrel. It took all of us explaining in detail multiple times to convince you that just because G&G sells an aftermarket steel barrel that doesn't mean that G&G Combat Machines come with a steel barrel. Again, this shows some major lack of understanding on your part. It tells us that you don't know the aftermarket parts market very well because you were unaware of the difference between a stock barrel and an aftermarket barrel. It tells us that you don't understand much about what goes into a gun because you believed a low price gun would come with an expensive barrel. It shows us that you're not very receptive to correction because it took many of us a long time and a lot of effort to convince you otherwise. And, it showed us that you're not very good with deducing facts from evidence, because you came to very very bad conclusion (honestly, one so bad that I've never seen another person make the same mistake in my 11 years in this sport) from very little evidence.
Your list of claims based on bad evidence or weak "testing" is long. For instance, you claim that G&G gears are very strong because you dropped one and it didn't break. That's not a valid method to determine the strength of a gear, for a number of reasons. First, you don't know if other gears would or wouldn't break from the same drop, so you have no basis of comparison. Second, you don't know how the gear landed, and how the gear lands will affect how the force of the impact affects the material. You use weight as a reason for the gear being stronger, but basic knowledge of metal tells us that weight isn't a good measure of metal strength. Lead, for instance, is a very heavy metal, but it's also very very soft. Aluminum is a lot lighter than lead, but much much stronger. Titanium is a very light metal, but it's one of the strongest metals out there. A metal's weight doesn't determine it's strength, but you claim that you know the gears are strong because they're heavy. That's wrong, and very obviously wrong to people who have a basic understanding of metals.
You go on to claim things like this constantly. Right now you're saying that the outer barrel on G&G Combat Machines isn't some sort of plastic. That's wrong. I know it for a fact. I've handled dozens of Combat Machines. The outer barrel on them is most definitely plastic of some kind. I could go on, you do this constantly. People call you a liar because so much of what you say isn't the truth. It has nothing to do with the fact that you like Combat Machines. I'm going to say that again to be clear:
The reason why people call you a liar is absolutely not because you like Combat Machines.
The reason why people call you a liar is because many of the reasons you claim for liking Combat Machines are obviously wrong and based on bad assumptions, a misunderstanding of basic principles, and very little real evidence.
This is something you need to understand because it's the crux of why you're having so many problems here. Many of the things you say are wrong and verifiably so. Many people have explained this to you and you keep arguing with them about it. You argue with them because you think they're trashing your gun and you get upset about it. That feeling of being upset is blinding you to the reality of the situation: they're right and you're wrong. The Combat Machine inner barrel isn't steel. The outer barrel is plastic. A cracked gearbox won't lower your ROF by 15RPS. Heavier gears aren't always stronger. These are facts and they're facts that multiple people have explained to you. You refuse to accept that there's even a possibility that you're wrong because you want to defend your gun so badly. You need to stop that because that's why everybody has a problem with the things you say. Because they're obviously wrong and you won't learn the right things from anybody, even the people that agree with you like me and ThompsonFTW.
I like Combat Machines. I think they have value and I recommend them all the time. I've said as much in posts addressed to you directly and that I know you've read. I'll say it again to be clear. I like G&G Combat Machines. But you don't seem to know that. You seem to think that I don't like them. Why? Because you don't understand the things that I've told you. You don't understand most of the things that Legolas's trans roommate and others have told you. You either aren't very good at taking the correct meaning out of what you read, or you don't read what we say very closely. I'll use your example of the cracked gearbox.
You said that you fired a gun with a cracked gearbox. You also said that a cracked gearbox shell will lower your ROF by about 15 rounds per second. Here's the quote:
It does decrease the ROF by about 15rps
That statement, the one about ROF, was the problem. A cracked gearbox shell will not affect the ROF of a gun. Furthermore, if it were to affect the ROF of every gun, it wouldn't do so by the same amount for every gun. If a cracked gearbox could affect ROF, which it doesn't, but if it did, it would affect each gun very differently. Some might see a drop of 15 RPS, others might see a drop of 1-2 RPS. A lot of factors would play into that, including the ROF that the gun had initial, how bad the crack was, where the crack was, and a number of other factors. This is how physics works. No two cracked boxes are the same, and as a result, the affects of each crack would be different. Do you see what I'm saying? If not, re-read it. That one statement has two major problems. First, it's not possible. A cracked shell couldn't affect ROF. Second, if it were possible, it wouldn't happen as you described, a universal 15RPS drop. That's why people called you a liar. It wasn't because you said you fired a gun with a cracked gearbox. That's common and most people know that it can happen. The problem was the results you claimed you saw. You may have seen those results, but they would have been the result of a completely different problem, one that you misinterpreted as a result of the crack.
Think about that for a second. The results you reported couldn't have come from the cause you ascribed to them. Everybody talking to you in that thread knew it. If you think that the cause of the drop in ROF is the crack, that tells everybody in that thread that you don't understand what factors can impact the ROF of a gearbox and that you don't understand what elements of a gearbox a crack in the shell can impact. That's one example of why people think you don't have a very good understanding of gearboxes. The things that you say demonstrate that you don't.
Here's another example of a similar problem. In the same thread, you claimed that G&G Combat Machines have a steel barrel inner barrel. Everybody told you that they didn't. You continued to claim that they did. Your evidence for believing that they have a steel inner barrel was the fact that G&G also makes a steel aftermarket inner barrel. It took all of us explaining in detail multiple times to convince you that just because G&G sells an aftermarket steel barrel that doesn't mean that G&G Combat Machines come with a steel barrel. Again, this shows some major lack of understanding on your part. It tells us that you don't know the aftermarket parts market very well because you were unaware of the difference between a stock barrel and an aftermarket barrel. It tells us that you don't understand much about what goes into a gun because you believed a low price gun would come with an expensive barrel. It shows us that you're not very receptive to correction because it took many of us a long time and a lot of effort to convince you otherwise. And, it showed us that you're not very good with deducing facts from evidence, because you came to very very bad conclusion (honestly, one so bad that I've never seen another person make the same mistake in my 11 years in this sport) from very little evidence.
Your list of claims based on bad evidence or weak "testing" is long. For instance, you claim that G&G gears are very strong because you dropped one and it didn't break. That's not a valid method to determine the strength of a gear, for a number of reasons. First, you don't know if other gears would or wouldn't break from the same drop, so you have no basis of comparison. Second, you don't know how the gear landed, and how the gear lands will affect how the force of the impact affects the material. You use weight as a reason for the gear being stronger, but basic knowledge of metal tells us that weight isn't a good measure of metal strength. Lead, for instance, is a very heavy metal, but it's also very very soft. Aluminum is a lot lighter than lead, but much much stronger. Titanium is a very light metal, but it's one of the strongest metals out there. A metal's weight doesn't determine it's strength, but you claim that you know the gears are strong because they're heavy. That's wrong, and very obviously wrong to people who have a basic understanding of metals.
You go on to claim things like this constantly. Right now you're saying that the outer barrel on G&G Combat Machines isn't some sort of plastic. That's wrong. I know it for a fact. I've handled dozens of Combat Machines. The outer barrel on them is most definitely plastic of some kind. I could go on, you do this constantly. People call you a liar because so much of what you say isn't the truth. It has nothing to do with the fact that you like Combat Machines. I'm going to say that again to be clear:
The reason why people call you a liar is absolutely not because you like Combat Machines.
The reason why people call you a liar is because many of the reasons you claim for liking Combat Machines are obviously wrong and based on bad assumptions, a misunderstanding of basic principles, and very little real evidence.
This is something you need to understand because it's the crux of why you're having so many problems here. Many of the things you say are wrong and verifiably so. Many people have explained this to you and you keep arguing with them about it. You argue with them because you think they're trashing your gun and you get upset about it. That feeling of being upset is blinding you to the reality of the situation: they're right and you're wrong. The Combat Machine inner barrel isn't steel. The outer barrel is plastic. A cracked gearbox won't lower your ROF by 15RPS. Heavier gears aren't always stronger. These are facts and they're facts that multiple people have explained to you. You refuse to accept that there's even a possibility that you're wrong because you want to defend your gun so badly. You need to stop that because that's why everybody has a problem with the things you say. Because they're obviously wrong and you won't learn the right things from anybody, even the people that agree with you like me and ThompsonFTW.
He sent me this (paraphrasing):
Nuh uh, the outer barrel is metal